open for dicussion "does a graded 9 hurt a modern card?"

[TOTRAN]

BGS 9 and PSA 9 I don't think hurt the value..... a BCCG grade of 9 would hurt it. BGS 9 is slightly better than a PSA 9 also on modern .... a PSA 9 could very slighly hurt on real new stuff. I'd be happier with a BGS 9 versus a PSA 9 on modern cards. Not a big grader, but I'll buy some EBAY slabs from time to time. A fine nine has never bothered me

brings me to another thought, once a card has an auto on it and is graded the main focus of the card is the auto as long as the auto is graded 10 the card being a 9 is of little importance

[NattyBoo]

Strictly speaking, an on-card auto can never almost never get a 10 surface subgrade.

[TOTRAN]

Strictly speaking, an on-card auto can never almost never get a 10 surface subgrade.

uh why is that? ive seen on card autos graded 10. not sure if the surface was 9.5 but theres nothing ive read to back up your statement

[twins2008nathan]

I think Natty is talking about the BGS subrades (not the auto grade). Any current BGS card gets graded individually on a scale of 1-10 on surface, corners, edges, centering. Those subgrades make up the final card grade. She was saying a card with an on card auto on it would certainly not get a 10 subgrade for surface and I'd agree that would be ultra rare as the card had to be handled to be signed, probably packed and sent out and packed and returned. Getting just a 10 on the auto would not be an issue and Beckett is pretty darn easy on the auto grades.

[TOTRAN]

sorry yes i was talking about the card being graded a 10 and the surface subgrade possibly getting a 9.5 portion of the overall 10.
my understanding is that if its a official auto pulled from a pack than the fact that the ink [auto] on the card is not detracted from the surface grade.
as for a cards surface getting damaged because of extra transport issues and handling, its an aspect that could happen but there is still the chance that despite all of that the card could still grade out a ten
a card i recently traded cbf graded out 9.5 in all subs and 10 auto and this was a card that was in the mail 4 times
to player
from player
to cbf
to beckett

[The Cardboard Fan]

This is the one Tony is referring to

[Hands]

Very nice!

Bowman bkb is a pain to get gold labels on.

If it is the same for baseball - I am very impressed!

[TOTRAN]

Very nice!

Bowman bkb is a pain to get gold labels on.

If it is the same for baseball - I am very impressed!

x fracters are the toughest because the process that makes them leaves print lines on the card sometimes i have a graded 9 x fracter boman chrome longoria rc in this instance a graded 9 is very nice. id say out of the 250 made 25 or more wont be 9's due to printing issues